Chat Room – News Excerpts & Highlights
blackgold: It’s a slow day in the small town of Pumphandle, Oklahoma and the streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit. A tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.
As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher. (Stay with this….. and pay attention) The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer.
The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Co-op. The guy at the Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her “services” on credit.
The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel Owner. The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the traveler will not suspect anything.
At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves.
No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town now thinks that they are out of debt and there is a false atmosphere of optimism and glee. And that, my friends, is how a “government stimulus package” works!
anacanapanastan: ……….blackgold ……….brilliant! and that is how currency works- it settles trade. Course you could have used gold for example instead of paper fed dollars in that example… money can be currency but currency can never be money……..so what is money you say?….
JoeSchmoe: and @anacanapanastan , can I make you my new guru?
blackgold: @anacanapanastan no Money is never currecy
anacanapanastan: @JoeSchmoe as far as me being ur guru…. look in the mirror – thats ur guru
blackgold: @anacanapanastan money is something that holds its value over time, but currency doesn’t qualify
dinard: @xyz i translated the pdf dinard: @xyz will only post my translation with zigs permission
Zig: @dinard: Uhhhhhhh…..OKAY.
JoeSchmoe: @anacanapanastan your words sound very guruish when posting. Zim is dead,only a complete gullible doof wuld even consider it
JoeSchmoe: @anacanapanastan doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out just by seeing it
anacanapanastan: @JoeSchmoe ir?
dinard: @JoeSchmoe i know right like what are zimbabwes main exports? poverty and malaria?
anacanapanastan: @JoeSchmoe oh seeing it- yeah, lots of hype out there
dinard: @Zig translation is a little rough. im very new to arabic
anacanapanastan: @JoeSchmoe dam i need to unload a trillion billion, quad zillion fillion zimilariain currency units … know of any buyers?
blackgold: @dinard you mean after the UK ,China and Russia took and are still taking all Zimbabwes natural resources
blackgold: @dinard a better question is what doesn’t Zimbabwe export
dinard: @blackgold valuable currency
blackgold: @dinard won’t know until it happens. Our currency ain’t worth crap but you still use it
anacanapanastan: cheers- may bounce back here tonight
blackgold: @dinard countries are dumping our US treasuries by the billions, they just aren’t telling you
dinard: @blackgold very true. i wish i could just use weed nugs as currency. but hey people would rather have cash for some weird reason so thats how i pay
dinard: @blackgold whos they?
blackgold: @dinard the on;y one buying US Treasuries is Wall street and the Federal reserve
blackgold: @dinard Russia,China, North and south Korea and most of the BRICS
blackgold: @dinard to name a few
Zig: THE MAD DELETRESS STRIKES AGAIN…. ;oh;
blackgold: Zim might be dead but i’ll take all you got if you are giving it away
Zig: @Spectra : Nice design….”A”
blackgold: I was one of the first to post 4 years ago the info about Zimbabwe not having a currency, i’m not new to this, but i’m still not giving it away
blackgold: its a great coversation piece if nothing else
dinard: @blackgold im new. whats the whole idea with the zim? are they going to rv or drop zeroes?
blackgold: @dinard i don’t know, I just wait to see what happens in all the mess
dinard: @blackgold ive got my eyes. on the syrian pound. i have a feeling it will RV after ww3
blackgold: @dinard eventually we will either go to war or have some sort of world reset
blackgold: @dinard I’m thru buying currencies, the elite /Cabal/ Black nobility, can trick me into buying anymore currencies. If it RVs i’ll be rich enough
blackgold: @dinard can’t
dinard: @blackgold quitter
blackgold: We won’t survive WWIII if there is one, it will cost you $50 a gallon in gas, milk will be $10 a gallon if you can get it
xyz: @dinard ty … @Zig it is a blessing to be a kind human being
blackgold: Time to go study, everyone have a bless day
dinard: @Zig why you hate west coast and cbi arabic pdf?
Rescue guy without a clue: So, what’s the latest on our investment
Rescue guy without a clue: No RV, just RI. ZIM is dead, what else
xyz: was ZIM ever alive?
Rescue guy without a clue: Nope
xyz: is IQD alive?
Spectra: yes : for now-lol
Rescue guy without a clue: Yes?
xyz: Does IQD have live cells?
Spectra: For a limited time only the iqd is living.
Rescue guy without a clue: Nothing on the CBI website about any of this.
xyz: @Rescue guy without a clue ANY OF WHAT?
Rescue guy without a clue: About any international RV
Baxter: If you want the real truth… Wang Dang is having a call tonight… :laugh
Rescue guy without a clue: Call? What are you going to call it?
xyz: @Rescue guy without a clue WHERE DID YOU HEAR ABOUT international RV?
Rescue guy without a clue: Guru, guru. Who’s our guru?
Rescue guy without a clue: @xyz you know, recaps, dinar guru….
xyz: @Rescue guy without a clue ‘good luck’
Rescue guy without a clue: :laugh
Zig: RE-POSTED FOR “SANDYF”……”Chattels: @sandyf : So, you allow for the possibility of a private ” exchange ” or purchase of one’s dinar by a private buyer?… ” private trading ” as you say ?… As you may know there a several groups offering or soliciting as such… If so, how profitable to we dinar holders is such likely to be?… I don’t mean in a public manner, but via the private offering… It would seem clearly to be a ” buyer’s market “… What would such ” an agreement with international banks ” look like ?”….
xyz: I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. -Confucius
xyz: I think; therefore I am. -Descartes
dinard: dinar gurus still havent translated the coveted arabic CBI pdf intel huh? looks like ill be bringing it to my local schwarma restaurant
dinard: hear yee! hear yee! Many congratulations and praises will be given to the lady or gentleman who translates this coveted pdf…… https://cbi.iq/static/uploads/up/file-152379158771873.pdf
xyz: @dinard or enjoy https://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/iqdcalls-chat-early-sunday-4-15-18-part-1-of-2
dinard: @xyz oh snap i didnt want to look back really. i didnt know it was translated already for my viewing pleasure
xyz: It does not appear that the prime minister, Haidar al-Abadi, and his alliance “victory”, within the circle that Tehran seeks to support, Quite the contrary, the Iranian movements are in complete isolation, and without continuing with Abadi, which Tehran sees as leaning towards the West and the Arab world, Which made the division of the National Alliance in these elections inevitable
chattels: The price of the dollar today in Baghdad Release date: 2018/4/15 9:52 • [Ayn-Baghdad] Foreign currency markets in Baghdad, on Sunday morning, stabilized at the dollar exchange rate against the Iraqi dinar. The market price in the Kifah Stock Exchange in Baghdad was 1204.5 dinars per dollar, ie 120 thousand and 450 dinars per hundred dollars.
xyz: Abadi: The government referred files of great corruption to integrity http://almadapaper.net/Details/209845/-
dinard: @Spectra i heard trump holds trillions in zim though
dinard: who yall got for the stanley cup this year?
xyz: The parliamentary law: the adoption of oil and gas law ends the dispute between Baghdad and Erbil http://www.alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=155570
The head of the parliamentary legal committee, Muhsen al-Saadoun, that the adoption of the law of oil and gas contribute to ending the eternal dispute between Baghdad and Erbil, noting that the parliament received more than five drafts of the law during the previous two sessions.
Al-Saadoun said in a press statement that “the approval of the oil and gas law contributes to ending the eternal dispute between Baghdad and Erbil and determines the responsibility of each party to manage natural resources.”
“The House of Representatives failed to interpret Article 112 and 111 of the Constitution, which caused the disruption of the passage of the law, despite its importance,” he added, ruling out “finding a final version because of differences on the eligibility of the parties to the conflict.”
Al-Saadoun pointed out that “the disruption of the oil and gas law caused a major crisis between Baghdad and Arbil has reached the threat of war between them, while the adoption of the law will ensure the legal and constitutional right of each party, whether a province or a territory.”
Spectra: @dinard sure @dinard hearing it and knowing it are two different things!
meatball: @dinard who would of thought Vegas had a team ?
dinard: @Spectra it was a joke lol i would hope he doesnt hold any zim
Spectra: @dinard i thought you meant iqd..
xyz: Oil & Gas
dinard: @Spectra i wonder if he actually does hold dinars. would be cool to think im in on the same top secret investment as the trumpino
Spectra: @dinard that would be great.
Zig: 4-14-2018 Newshound Kaperoni: A lot of people still tussle with the fact that the CBI could re- denominate. That makes little sense especially when they’re working so hard to manage monetary policy, reduce the spread etc. There is no intention to introduce a new currency, the currency of Iraq is the IQD…Yes the CBI does plan to introduce lower denominations but this will occur over time as the currency appreciates gradually.
Tebow: Kap no float CBI
Spectra: nothing has been substantiated indicating a float is right.
Tebow: who ya going to believe Kap or the CBI
xyz: LoP vs RV vs Float : LoP is evil thinking Float is not imaginable RV is loved
TWW: @Spectra U R correct, trust me, collective entire family does
TWW: @Spectra Iraq taking suggestions thru KUWAIT, the will RI as Kuwait did 1991. Never did do an RV. So I am not waiting for the RV only the RI. Remember to partnership between Iraq & Kuwait
dinard: kap dude has good point there
sandyf: @chattels: Not meaning to be rude but I did say no debate, merely an observation without any basis or foundation so just accept it for what it was.
sandyf: @larrykn: “Know they have been reducing the note count for some time now.” – and how do you know that, would be interested to see the source. Iraqi audited financial statements each year from 2005 have shown an increase in IQD in circulation. Is someone saying the auditors have made a mistake.
sandyf: @Baxter: I think that is B S… the U S Prints money everyday… Im gone till this afternoon… I notice you decided to ignore my comment about how a certain country can get away with printing as much as they want, does not apply to everybody.
sandyf: @anacanapanastan: Glad to see someone is prepared to use some grey matter and see where you are trying to come from but is it really feasible for Iraq to clock up an electronic deficit that would be more than 3 times the US national debt. I just cannot see it would be acceptable to the IMF.
Tebow: sandyfsays that’s if you believe they have that much in circulation.
Tebow: then you base your findings on 2012 data : six years ago
TWW: @Tebow :good TWW: @Tebow quiet here tonight
Tebow: everyone watching the ACM awards
TWW: @Tebow gotta b kidding
Tebow: or listening to Wang Dang
xyz: I suppose the celebrity guru is done with the breaking news
JoeSchmoe: It’s all a win win for him,kap, or anyone else who take the negative approach to this. Win if they’re right, happy if they’re wrong
TWW: @JoeSchmoe not whom ur addressing, but a nice way to look at it…
Tebow: so maybe with his theory he wants everyone to get rid of their dinar so circulation will come down and they will RV/RI their currency
JoeSchmoe: either sandyf andor kap what’s in if for them to keep coming in here or wherever to say it won’t happen ?
TWW: @Tebow RI as did Kuwait in 1991
JoeSchmoe: why does kap keep trying to make people believe it will float from where it is at?? Just tell us and leave it alone
JoeSchmoe: why does sandyf keep saying they will rd and we won’t make sh!t excpet maybe 3times what we put in?
TWW: @Tebow mayb he/she has truly no idea
JoeSchmoe: whats in it for him to keep saying it and trying to get us to believe?
JoeSchmoe: WE are all here to support each other and to try and stay positive about this
JoeSchmoe: WHY do they want to bring us down??: What is their agenda?
JoeSchmoe: COULD they be working for someone to get us to get out?
JoeSchmoe: a little far fetched,but you nver know
Tebow: doesn’t matter me what they say I believe what I believe
TWW: @Tebow I agree with u
JoeSchmoe: I truly don’t know what to believe anymore, but I don’t need someone trying to bring me down, when this whole ride and chat(s) are all about support
JoeSchmoe: he says he has dinar, and hopes to make ‘something’ in the end. So THERE, you told us your theory, let it go now. Quit coming in and trying to get everyone to believe what you do!
TWW: @JoeSchmoe who r u speaking to
Zig: What anyone believes has no influence on what will happen…Who cares what anyone thinks will happen?…You took a small risk for a potential big gain…Either you stay in or sell…Nobody should influence what you decide to do….I will stay in no matter what anyone thinks….but I will consider all possibilities so find others’ theories interesting to ponder…
Spectra: Well I did not see sandy answer chattels 5 questions …That should rest that case!
Spectra: No answers equals …. No listen for me.
Tebow: after 14 yrs, I’m all in till the end
JoeSchmoe: @Tebow me too
mountainwest74: Tebow and JoeSchmoe, so sandy believes we should just either take a gain or small loss depending how long one has been in the investment?
dinard: @Spectra what were the questions?
dinard: @mountainwest74 thats how capitol gains taxes work but theres ways around it im sure
TWW: @dinard there were no capitol gains in ’91 just a str8 exchange
xyz: @mountainwest74 then what is he doing preaching in dinarland? Does he woek for charity and want to help people 12hrs behind?
?mountainwest74: dinard, I have been gone a couple of months and not been on the chat room. I would usually speak with Chattels and Tman occasionally. I was not to familiar with Sandy.
dinard: @TWW idk. your supposed to pay any income from a sale of a capital asset. is currency considered a capital asset? is an exchange considered a sale?
TWW: @xyz No in ’91 when Kuwait RI’d
mountainwest74: xyz – Agree, wonder why Sandy and other skeptics waste their time on these chat rooms. Does Tman23 still makes appearances in this chat room?
[pm]Zig: Sandyf never has said that he knows what “will” happen….just ponders the “possibilities” to consider…based on what he knows about currencies, economics, etc….never has claimed that he is a “Know-it-all”…no different than others out there who give their opinions…don’t understand why that bothers some of you…..just take it as another point of view….as I have said, he is invested…..have known him a long time….
WW: @xyz If you exchanged ur BMW for a boat is that is this an exchange or capitol gain???